tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post2889471187672253047..comments2023-06-18T03:40:31.263-07:00Comments on The Cinematic Katzenjammer: Oct 23: Dark ShadowsNickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08461049654345906648noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-28605186532003610802012-10-24T14:26:04.608-07:002012-10-24T14:26:04.608-07:00I went in angry and came out angrier. But I unders...I went in angry and came out angrier. But I understand where you're coming from. Either then, I still couldn't give it a higher score. The McDonald's joke was okay, but in the end it felt more like an obvious product placement than anything else. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461049654345906648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-79951628111522114002012-10-24T11:26:56.828-07:002012-10-24T11:26:56.828-07:00I didn't care much about the CGI either, not a...I didn't care much about the CGI either, not a fan of the Alice in Wonderland look, but that's just a matter of personal taste. And like Ben, I thought there were too many characters.<br /><br />I don't have a problem with Burton working with Depp, and like Amanda said, they're just doing what they love, going separate ways wasn't going to change that. In various interviews Burton and Depp stated that "the idea came up, we loved show, we decided to do it". Pfeiffer was in it for the same reason. So all of them are just having fun, and that's fine with me, to some point. I wasn't expecting anything more than a LOT of silly humour and quirky performances.<br /><br />I guess what I'm trying to say is that... it's only that bad if you can't find the humour pleasing. Like To Rome with Love - not great, but I found it hilarious so I can't say it's bad either. I watched Dark Shadows when it came out (many months ago) and still laugh at the McDonald's / Mephistopheles joke. Some movies are just meant to be fun.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12100758997830469219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-8566609393487445522012-10-24T10:47:40.004-07:002012-10-24T10:47:40.004-07:00That's something I was thinking about as well,...That's something I was thinking about as well, Burton trying to appease fans of the old show. As I said in my review, most of pretended to know about it once the movie was announced. I'm not sure how many people are actually familiar with it. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461049654345906648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-79910971476316585792012-10-24T10:46:55.333-07:002012-10-24T10:46:55.333-07:00I feel I talked about the other elements as well. ...I feel I talked about the other elements as well. I mentioned the crappy CGI and green screen use, the sub-par acting, the lack of humor and charm, etc. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461049654345906648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-52053917404107077892012-10-24T03:53:30.180-07:002012-10-24T03:53:30.180-07:00I rated it just above average (6/10) but I did fee...I rated it just above average (6/10) but I did feel similarly to you. I gave it such a high rating because the visual look of the film was still top-notch. The set design, setting, score is all well done, if a little stale.<br /><br />My one big problem with the film was that there were too many characters. Some characters are only in the film to further the story - i.e. the kid with the ghost, the girl/maid who looks a little like Barnabus' dead wife. There's very little back story other than 'look this is bla bla bla'.<br /><br />I think they were trying to appease the old watcher's of the television show (which I haven't seen) but at the same time, the tone of the film is for a new generation. So the film flops in its storyline because one part of the audience know these characters and want more, the other half don't know them and don't care. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16936983379899105507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-75674456844817438602012-10-23T23:32:22.010-07:002012-10-23T23:32:22.010-07:00Well, don't you think that's a bit of a ge...Well, don't you think that's a bit of a generalistic approach? I mean how do you give a movie a fair critique if you base it off of something it technically has nothing to do with? I've spoken to a lot of people who think similarly to a range of different actors and directors. Will Smith is always the Fresh Prince, Jim Carrey is always Ace Ventura. <br /><br />So it is hard not to think about. Instead think about the elements of that movie, did they specifically do anything wrong, and if so, what? awsumdavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14133028731570755074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-32981684135792930462012-10-23T23:24:34.964-07:002012-10-23T23:24:34.964-07:00I have to disagree. You can't keep rehashing t...I have to disagree. You can't keep rehashing the same things and you can't expect the audience to watch each film as though it's the first thing of his they've seen. Burton keeps making movies and people keep seeing them. To compare each new film to his past movies is practically mandatory and even almost impossible to look at one on its own, esp with Depp in the picture. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461049654345906648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-11944430534369982482012-10-23T23:13:13.892-07:002012-10-23T23:13:13.892-07:00Good Marrow, GentleGuy, I just wanted to put my tw...Good Marrow, GentleGuy, I just wanted to put my two-cents in. I think you're looking a wee-bit too deep into this. You're looking at is as......yeah, seen this before, nothing new, Burton. Well that may be true, but you gotta try watching it as if you have never heard of Tim Burton, or seen any of his films. He does what he is most comfortable with, I still don't see much of a change since Edward Scissorhands. It's still the same feel, weird characters and all that. I didn't think this was awesome either, but I didn't hate it. /I think you know I see plenty of worse movies/<br /><br />I don't know. I guess that's why I view things objectionably.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-18710299533592190302012-10-23T23:01:11.585-07:002012-10-23T23:01:11.585-07:00I think Depp's in too deep, honestly. He needs...I think Depp's in too deep, honestly. He needs to play more normal roles and not this quirky eccentric weirdos. He used to be a very talented actor but I think his involvement with Burton has "tainted" him beyond repair. As for Burton, he needs to realize that special effects and green screens are not the keys to successful movies and again, return to something normal. Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461049654345906648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3230980845116084488.post-8153843057831532292012-10-23T22:58:32.955-07:002012-10-23T22:58:32.955-07:00I think at this stage Depp just wants to have fun ...I think at this stage Depp just wants to have fun and to him wearing crazy make-up and doing an odd voice is fun. I think he'd do these kind of roles with or without Burton, which is a shame because he used to be a fairly brilliant and subtle actor but wacky pays better. I feel like Burton's always had his hits and misses so I don't how much separating them with fix anything. Yes, they are enabling each other but they are successful enough that if they parted ways, they'd just find someone else to play the part. HBC is a sad case too, because she is really great in non-Burton films and it's kind of a drag knowing she will always be in his films because they are married.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com